Dallas Stars: Comparing Traditional And Nontraditional Hockey Markets
I hit the road before Christmas break to go and see my second ever Dallas Stars game in “enemy territory.” But this time, I went up north to see a “traditional” hockey market. The comparisons between the two are rather interesting.
The Dallas Stars are one of the most nontraditional hockey market teams in the NHL. There’s no way around that, but it is perfectly okay.
Since the NHL’s founding over 100 years ago, a multitude of different NHL franchises have been created and established all across North America. But where these franchises land seems to have a significant impact on how they are viewed by the rest of the league.
See, it’s all about whether the franchise is embedded in a “nontraditional” or “traditional” hockey market. How are these markets determined? Well, there are a few different factors.
For one, the date of founding carries a lot of weight. All of the “Original Six” teams are automatically considered “traditional” markets due to their year of origin. Toronto, Montreal, Chicago, Boston, New York Rangers, and Detroit all fall in this category. Their history and popularity make them automatic bids for the “traditional” label.
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Another has to do with their marketability and popularity. These are the teams that are considered to be impossible to desert. In other words, even if they went 0-82-0, their fan base would still stick with them. They wouldn’t fall off the hockey map and would remain popular among their city and fans.
Finally, location can play a large role in determining traditional from nontraditional. For instance, a team in a northern market where hockey is more popular would be more “traditional” than a team in a warmer climate where football reigns supreme.
Under these standards, the Dallas Stars are most certainly a nontraditional market. But, as I said earlier, that’s perfectly alright. After all, there is nothing wrong with doing things a little different from the “mainstream” hockey society.
In today’s NHL, there seems to be a decent balance of traditional and nontraditional markets. You have the main players like Boston, New York, and Toronto still chugging along and popular as ever. But you also have new players like Dallas, Nashville, San Jose, and Los Angeles who all have a nifty setup of their own.
This distinction has intrigued me for years now. Growing up, the only hockey I ever knew was Dallas Stars hockey. So while my definition of a nontraditional market was pretty precise, it was a biased one.
Through social media and a variety of other outlets, I was able to get a somewhat clear grasp of what other nontraditional markets as well as traditional ones looked like. But seeing one of each up close and personal in their unbiased glory has been a dream of mine for a while. Plus, I just want to see how things go in other hockey hubs.
That being said, I have spent the past nine months trying out one of each. Last March, a friend and I ventured out to San Jose to take in a Dallas Stars game at the Shark Tank. And just a few weeks back, a group of friends and I went to see the Stars take on the Philadelphia Flyers.
The results that I compiled from both walks of hockey life are interesting to say the least. But maybe this can help paint a clearer picture of what the distinction between the two markets is for all who may be wondering. I’m glad I was able to venture and see both because they provided me with an unbiased look at each hockey atmosphere.
So please, enjoy. Take it all in. Here is what I gained from a visit to San Jose (nontraditional) and Philadelphia (traditional). Read them over and contemplate on your own about how you think they compare to a typical Dallas Stars game. See what you think.
A Trip To The Shark Tank: March 12, 2017
Most sophomores in college typically want to spend their spring break in one place: the beach. 5-7 days spent purely partying sounds like a pretty great escape from dreaded schoolwork and stress, right?
Well, I guess I wasn’t like most college sophomores. While I did plan a trip to a “beach,” per say, over my sophomore spring break, it wasn’t to party. It was to see the Dallas Stars take on the San Jose Sharks in northern California.
A friend and I planned a trip a few months in advance and made our way over to California on the first day of spring break. We spent the first 24 hours navigating around the surprisingly quiet city of San Jose as well as its much louder neighbor, San Francisco.
San Jose Sharks
Let me start by saying this: the city of San Jose FULLY embraces their hockey team. Being as it is the only major professional team they have in the city, it’s hard not to rally around them. But boy do they.
As we walked around the city in Victory Green, there was an evident sea of teal walking the streets as well as visible through the windows of restaurants and bars. The Sharks were actually playing the first game of a doubleheader, so many of their fans were busy at the SAP Center or just around it in a nearby hotspot to watch the game.
But from license plate covers to car flags to flat bill hats, the Sharks were a predominant logo. That carried on into the night, even after their loss to the Nashville Predators.
Once we got to the game, there were a few factors that stuck out about San Jose hockey.
For one, their arena is all sorts of neat. When you walk in the main entrance, it looks incredibly small. But, after ascending an initial staircase, it turns into a massive loop. There are only two decks, but it still holds near 18,000 people. And their roof is low, which helps trap and repel sound much better, giving the arena a louder and more intense feel.
The passion was incredibly evident with their fans both outside and inside the arena. They had chants, designated shark-chomping hand motions for power plays, and an overall enthusiasm that really radiated to an opposing fan. They also yelled, “BOO” when the word “Star” came up in the national anthem (a tradition I’m sure they have learned over the years due to Stars fans yelling of the word).
But perhaps one of San Jose’s best qualities is the caliber of its fans. Maybe it was the nontraditional-to-nontraditional connection, but they were for the most part very hospitable. We decided to walk from our hotel to the arena, and that meant that we were eventually engulfed in a large sea of Sharks fans.
It may seem like a horrible time considering we were in enemy territory, but the fans were both nice and knowledgeable. They wanted to know if we were actually from Dallas, if we had enjoyed our time in San Jose, and what exactly it was that had happened to the Stars that caused them to fall off so drastically. Remember, this was March 2017, just as the nightmare 2016-17 season was coming to a close.
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They had questions about Jamie Benn, their former goaltender Antti Niemi, and “that new guy” Remi Elie (who scored his first NHL goal that night). They were also very passionate when it came to the in-arena cheering and chanting.
On the way out, there was one San Jose fan that came up to us and yelled, “STARS SUCK.” But this was more than likely due to a little too much partying. We didn’t have much room to talk, either, considering the Stars had just dropped a 5-1 decision to the Sharks.
But besides that, the experience was truly one of a kind. In a strange way, it kind of felt like the American Airlines Center.
Sure, hockey may not seem like the best sport to stick out in a hotbed like California. But Sharks fans know nothing of the sorts. They embrace their team (which has been quite good in recent years) and bring every ounce of energy they have in supporting the franchise.
Nontraditional may seem like a demotion and a phrase that keeps a team out of the “elite” traditional club, but they treat it like a promotion in San Jose. After all, it’s fun being different.
I loved the atmosphere in the streets of San Jose as well as in the SAP Center. And even though it involved yet another lackluster effort from the Stars, it was entertaining to see a new walk of hockey life. Those Sharks fans sure know how to make their hockey games entertaining.
Score one for the nontraditional folks.
A Trip To The City Of Brotherly Love
Let me start by saying this: the city of Philadelphia is cold. Also, they really care about their sports teams.
Back in July, a group of friends and myself planned a trip to Philadelphia and New York for December just after finals week ended. The main intent of the trip was to see the Dallas Stars take on the Philadelphia Flyers.
After what seemed like forever, we finally finished up with finals and took to the skies. When we landed in Philadelphia, it immediately started snowing. That was strike one for us Texans (just kidding, I love the snow).
Philadelphia Flyers
Only this wasn’t the snow we typically see in Texas. This was bitter wind to the face and snow that felt like small razorblades hitting your cheeks. Yowza.
As we walked around the city the day before the game, one thing was clearly evident: they love their Philadelphia Eagles. While there was a decent amount of Flyers gear being sported around, the Eagles reigned supreme. People would even see one of our green Stars beanies from a ways away and track us down because they thought we were Eagles fans. And when we informed them that we were from Dallas and in fact rooted for the Cowboys, it was like we had told them that we enjoyed eating out of port-a-potties for a living. They found us just flat out revolting.
When they found out we were Dallas Stars fans, the results were surprisingly not much better. While the Eagles and Cowboys have a longstanding rivalry, the Stars and Flyers do not any evident grievances with each other. We eventually found out the reason they hated the Stars so much, though. It was simply because they were from Dallas, the city that everyone in Philadelphia hates.
In a local sports fan shop in the middle of the city, they even sold flasks that had “Dallas Sucks” printed across them. It’s just something they have against the city.
While some Flyers fans gawked at us or messed with us, others would casually greet us and ask us if we were in town from Dallas for the game. The results varied, and it was a 50/50 shot with each Flyers fan we came in contact with.
We were immediately enveloped in a sea of orange when we arrived at the game. And we hadn’t even made it through the metal detectors before the security guards had begun playfully joking with us.
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The playful jokes carried on for the beginning of the game, but eventually turned into some not-so-playful ones. More on that later.
Much like the Stars and Sharks, the Flyers are VERY dedicated and loyal to their team. But their kind of loyalty was a bit different. I’m not sure exactly what it was that separated the two types, but there was definitely something.
Their dedication was simply on a different level. It wasn’t necessarily higher or lower, but there was a clear distinction. It almost seemed as though the Flyers fans expected their team to perform perfectly and nothing else would be accepted. If one player stepped out of line, it was as if they were all expecting his head postgame.
The interaction with fan in-game was a 50/50 gamble as well. There were some fans that kindly introduced themselves, welcomed us to their city, and had some questions about who they should be worried about in the Stars’ lineup. They would also tell us that the rumors of them being a rude and horrible fan base to visitors wasn’t true as long as we didn’t act like “big-headed idiots.”
But then there were others that talked non-stop trash about the Stars being a worthless hockey team. There was also a guy who continually berated the team, starting chants and boos throughout the game. He also began multiple “Ref You Suck” chants.
The Dallas Stars ended up losing in overtime, and the Flyers fans made sure we knew about it (though this was probably due to too much partying as well). On the way out, they would call out Ben Bishop’s name loudly when they saw us and ask us if we were heading home. And somehow, the Cowboys would always make their way into the conversation.
But they would eventually come to even ground with us and begin asking us why we had decided to fly up to Philadelphia and hoping that we had enjoyed our time at the game and that the fans hadn’t been too harsh on us.
With the traditional hockey market, there was definitely a lot more raw passion. Fans didn’t care what other people thought of them or their team. All they cared about was their team winning at the end of the day and were prepared to do anything to help make that happen. Even as Dallas Stars fans, it was pretty intimidating to go through. I can only imagine what the Pittsburgh Penguins fans go through.
The traditional hockey market offered established traditions, an intense in-game experience, and fans that would be friendly as long as the game wasn’t going on.
As you can see, there are plenty of differences and similarities that I witnessed in my two separate experiences. The Dallas Stars lost in both situations, but the ability to see just how a nontraditional and traditional market interacted made the entire trip worthwhile.
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So at the end of the day, it really is a matter of preference. It all depends on what you like and how you enjoy supporting your favorite hockey team.
The Dallas Stars are definitely a nontraditional hockey market, and that’s perfectly okay to be quite honest.